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Production Flood White

Offline suess Posted 04-27-2016 - 07:25 AM
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Onyx Version:
12.0.0.170 - test dummy
Printer(s):
2 - Oce 550XT / 2 - HP 370 / HP L26500 / GS600

Hello all..
We have Thrive 12, have upgraded from 10 etc through the years.. In previous versions I had several white option print modes (ie.. Spot White>CMYK, Flood White CMYK.. list goes on) Which I still have.
I have one missing that I could use for special situations which was a simple production mode flood white only.
I have tried to manual create one in the media manager but it seems to only want to create one with quality setting.

Any ideas would be helpful.
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Offline Pauly Posted 04-27-2016 - 05:37 PM
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Onyx Version:
12.0
Printer(s):
Oce Arizona 480XT

Easy Wink
Guessing this is for the arizona? Should be same for the rest.

- Open Media Manager and click Media Library.
- Find your CMYKSS/CMYKWW Flood print mode. Click on it and press Make Copy on the side. Re name it to what you want to call your Flood only mode.
- Now press the + button on your new mode and it should bring down 2 profiles, Quality layered flood and quality spot. Click the Flood profile (if theres one, click that one) then press edit on the left.
- Select print mode should come up. Dont touch anything there, press next.
- Should be on basic print mode. Rename if you wish. Then press Mode Options. Press define layers. Change top layer to flood white. turn middle and bottom to empty. Press ok. Press next.
- save and exit. (press the stop button)
Now you should have your flood only print mode, which should print at quality speed.
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Offline MaxGamut Posted 04-29-2016 - 09:50 AM
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Onyx Version:
10
Printer(s):
HP L26500, Canon iPF9000

Sorry for off-topic, but can you explain me what are this modes good for, and what is the difference between them?
We have no printer with white ink, but one never knows what comes tommorow... Thanks.
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Offline Pauly Posted 04-30-2016 - 05:09 AM
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Oce Arizona 480XT

Sometimes customers want funny things.

White can be used for many things. Like printing on coloured stock, use it as a background for colour or use white for the print. I.e black stock and white writing.

Can use white for spot colours on specific medias, those with low gamut.

I have used a flood white on glass instead of painting them to get all 20 sheets 2m x 1.2m all the same densities as they where used as double side walls.

Used white at different densities to create patterns on glass or acrylic.

A lot you can do with it.
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Offline MaxGamut Posted 05-02-2016 - 11:51 AM
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10
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HP L26500, Canon iPF9000

Sorry for unclear question, English is not my mother tongue. Embarrased

It means "flood white" is put down:
a/ instead of media white wherever there is no color (0/0/0/0) or
b/ totally everywhere (kind of bounding box)
or some other way? Can you somehow mix printed colors with such white? (light tones, gradients)

And the "spot white" is like additional printing channel?
Do you need vector data only, or can you replace any color with white also in tiff/jpg ?

Thanks for answering!
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Offline Pauly Posted 05-02-2016 - 03:03 PM
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12.0
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Oce Arizona 480XT

I'm not totally understanding your question but i'll try!

Yes flood white is put down everywhere where the printer is printing the CMYK image.
In onyx you can adjust the bleed and other things of the white.

Spot white, will only print where it registers a spot colour. I.e Spot1 or Spot2 Just like pantone spot colours. You can do it as a vector, or as a raster though photoshop and layers.

You can also do it though onyx, but you're more limited to what you can do with it, but for example you can replace all 62/81/0/0 to print spot white though onyx
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Offline MaxGamut Posted 05-22-2016 - 04:30 PM
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Onyx Version:
10
Printer(s):
HP L26500, Canon iPF9000

Yes flood white is put down everywhere where the printer is printing the CMYK image.
Only instead of 0/0/0/0 or some more advanced way?

In onyx you can adjust the bleed and other things of the white.
Probably this is what I wanted to ask - what settings does Onyx have for the flood white?

I partly understand transparent materials, their properties and what can be printed.
But I´m also interested if it´s possible to print on colored material (like black plates etc). What if the material color is not white? Can you use that flood white somehow to get partially white base or it is just to fill "empty space"?
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Offline Pauly Posted 05-23-2016 - 07:51 AM
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Onyx Version:
12.0
Printer(s):
Oce Arizona 480XT

Onyx does a "flood" and "spot" white.
Flood white - is very basic. It will print white ink (usually at maximum density, unless set) very where, the whole image.
Spot white - just like using spot colours, just with white ink only.



Onyx will allow you to do a range of things with white.
Bleed ( add or reduce the bleed )
if there's no spot white, you can add your own by choosing which colour (CMYK) to use as white.
There should be a while topic in the manual about it. under the help button.

Materials, well printing on coloured materials, I.e black is when you'd mostly use a flood white. or a spot white if some of the image requires the material colour.
Yes you can get a partially white base, all depends how you set it up.

http://help.onyxgfx.com/x10/preflight/he...20Tool.htm
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